English transcript

I've known Elon since 2000, 24, almost 25 years.

And he was never a doctrinaire, but for the first 20 years, he was left of center.

Tesla was a clean energy electric vehicle company.

The Republicans were these people who didn't believe in climate change.

And so it was sort of naturally much more comfortable in sort of deep blue democratic

California.

And then at some point, Elon shifted, and it's overdetermined why he shifted or why

you shifted or some of these other people did.

I didn't shift, Peter.

Everyone else just moved.

But everyone feels that way, of course.

And I know these things are overdetermined, but I keep thinking part of it

is just this sort of straitjacket is not what you all signed up for.

This intellectual straitjacket where you're not allowed to have ideas.

Even if you agree with 80 percent, it's never enough.

You have to be 100 percent.