Discussion on Occupation and Minority Rights

They do that to minorities there, and you say, what are we? Do we have an ethnicity problem?

We're occupiers. Yes, the occupation, occupation,

The occupation will bring everything that came after— Everything happening now is a result

of the occupation.

What's happening now?

What's happening now? What's not happening now? Also religious coercion, also the—

Also the settlers, Jewish terrorism, also the—the

shootings. Shootings—

But when we withdrew from Gaza, for example—

Yes.

And there were no Jews there, look what grew there and what happened to us.

It grew there, it didn't grow there just because of— Look, I'll tell you one thing.

I lived in South Africa when there was apartheid.

Yes.

Uh, I know Yitzhak Shamir planted a bomb at the King

David

Hotel, where there were people,

because he was in the—

What? Who? Where? What?

Yitzhak Shamir.

Yes.

A member of Lehi.

Yes.

They tried to blow up the, uh, King David Hotel.

A minority has the right to fight for its freedom too—

You see, he's massacring civilians and—

Yes, wow, wow, wow. I cleaned houses in the Gaza border communities

from December ’73 until a year ago, all the houses

that were damaged—

Yes.

In Nir Oz, Nahal Oz, Be'eri. With my own hands,

Uh, with a group of volunteers, I cleaned, uh, three times

a week, maybe for two years, the homes where terrorists had been.

With grenades, with shell casings, shell casings of, uh, with

blood-covered knives. With my own hands, I scrubbed

damaged homes with bleach. For two years. We don't talk about it, and that's it.

Okay.

For two years. I'm, uh, a great patriot, I love this country

dearly.

And it's like seeing your child

Uh,

turn into something where you say, "This isn't how I raised them."

Okay, there's a lot to unpack here—I'll tell you that I see things

differently, and I'll tell you that a minority's right to defend itself is, is, is, is a statement,

Uh…

It's hard for us to breathe this morning.

It's hard. Yes.

But Hali, we didn't come to talk about these things.

No, heaven forbid.

No, but I understand that it's intense and that it hurts you in a—

Did you read what I wrote?

Uh, yes.

A student of the people.

We, the country is still wounded and bleeding and grieving over what that

minority that fought did here. So let's take a moment to breathe.

And we'll understand that it's still too early for us to talk about things like this, if

ever. But we came to talk about, uh, something else

entirely, about cinema and new roles,

uh, even at this age. Uh, and with all the experiences

that you, uh, carry with you from deca— You know what?

Let's—

Were we on air?

Yes, we were on air. Of course. We're on air.

Were we on air during that conversation?

Of course.

This isn't okay.

Why are we—there's a show.

No, that wasn't okay. You didn't tell me we were back on air.

We're on air.

I don't want to.

We're on air.

No, no. I'm leaving. This isn't okay. I thought this was an off-screen conversation.

I didn't know this was a public conversation.

We really, really, really went live. We got—

I didn't know, because I even told you I don't want to talk about everything—about everything

I did around Gaza. I said I don't want to talk about it so it won't

be on—

I thought we were on commercials.

So we really were on air.

I don't, I don't want to.

And that's how we viewed it, at least.

I don't want to. I'm so sorry. I don't know what to do with this thing.

Right now. I'm really shocked.

So, um, would you like us to take a little breath here?

I really, I really—

We'll give you a moment to drink some water.

I really... You didn't say we were on air.

We, um...

I thought we were on a commercial break.

We, um...

And that was a conversation—

Okay, we'll go back to a short break.

Wait, I don't want to. I really, um...

We'll be right back, and we'll see how we

pull ourselves together after this conversation. Um,

See you.

This isn't...