# Discussion on Ukraine's Territorial Rights - Original post: https://www.twitter.com/i/status/2118367124716491116 - Source account: [@darinapaz991](https://x.com/darinapaz991) - Source language: Russian - Target language: English - Duration: 5:01 - Published: 2026-11-06 - Machine translated. Check the original before quoting. - Canonical URL: https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights ## Transcript [0:00](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights) Because legally, a republic is entitled only to the territory with which it joined the Union. [0:07](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=7) And if it annulled the Union Treaty along with the other parties to that Union Treaty, then it must return to its former borders, and all subsequent acquisitions should be subject to negotiations, not to fighting, territorial seizures, or disputes, [0:22](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=22) but to negotiations among all the parties to this Union, among those who were part of this Union. [0:28](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=28) I repeat that I believe there are certain issues that are subject to discussion and negotiation and should be resolved as a result of those negotiations, not through the use of force. [0:41](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=41) But I am very concerned, and I want to emphasize that Ukraine links its independence mainly with the creation of powerful armed forces. [0:49](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=49) Take Japan, for example. Do you think it’s a sovereign state? Absolutely. [0:53](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=53) But under its Constitution, it still doesn’t have the right to have an army. [0:57](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=57) It only has self-defense forces. If you pay attention, in the speeches of the current Ukrainian leadership, there’s not a word about human rights or the rule of law. [1:07](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=67) They all begin and end with talk of independence. [1:10](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=70) Now we see what kind of independence they chose. [1:13](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=73) It turns out that, above all, their independence requires an army. [1:17](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=77) An army they would build up in as short a time as possible. [1:20](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=80) Then they also needed the Black Sea Fleet. [1:23](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=83) But I have no doubt that tomorrow they’ll make the corresponding claims, and in fact, they’ve already claimed the right to nuclear weapons. [1:29](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=89) As a politician and a lawyer, do you see any possibility of compromise? [1:34](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=94) Well, I don't just see one. I believe there's simply no avoiding compromise here. [1:37](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=97) Well, first of all, if we're talking about the general approach to these issues, I believe there is one legally possible option here, one that is legally correct and fair: all the founding republics that joined the Union in 1922, [1:52](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=112) after they themselves had annulled the 1922 treaty, should return to the borders within which they joined the Union. [2:00](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=120) Everything else, all the other, so to speak, territorial acquisitions is a matter for discussion, for negotiations and for decisions to be made, because the foundation has been annulled. [2:10](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=130) Well, actually, the president of Ukraine expressed the opinion, that this treaty has no force at all for him, like everything that happened under Soviet rule, though he himself played no small part in it as a Central Committee secretary and a member of Ukraine's Politburo. [2:25](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=145) But he pre— pre— prefers to return to the Pereyaslav Council and the days of Bohdan Khmelnytsky. [2:32](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=152) Well, fine, let's go back to that treaty and return to Ukraine within the borders set by that treaty. [2:38](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=158) Everything else should be subject to discussion and negotiations. [2:42](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=162) As for the fate of the Black Sea Fleet, well, I wouldn't want to talk right now about territorial claims, say, the fate of Crimea. [2:49](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=169) But, well, there are known, quite a large number of precedents where one state's naval bases are located on another state's territory. [3:00](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=180) Even if we assume something as absurd as that, that Crimea is Ukrainian territory. [3:05](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=185) Well, from this point of view, I believe an agreement between Russia and Ukraine is entirely possible, but as far as I know, Sevastopol has never been a Ukrainian naval base. [3:16](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=196) It has always been a Russian naval base and this situation cannot be changed by some passing circumstances. [3:26](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=206) What took centuries to take shape cannot be undone in a day, even if representatives of the Communist nomenklatura decided it together with nationalists, it cannot be changed in a day. [3:37](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=217) Then Russia's actions— economic measures, I don't know, sanctions, something else in response? [3:42](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=222) I believe this isn't just a matter for Russia. [3:44](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=224) I believe this is also a matter for the international community, because Ukraine’s actions toward, so to speak, the Soviet army and navy— are actions that pose a colossal threat to all of humanity as a whole. [3:58](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=238) And so it is entirely possible here for them to hold a certain international negotiation conference, related, so to speak, under the auspices of, for example, the United Nations, with the participation of the world’s leading countries, [4:10](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=250) in order to work out certain mutually acceptable solutions. [4:13](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=253) I oppose resolving any territorial conflicts by force. [4:17](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=257) There should be negotiations here, but we mustn’t waste time either. [4:21](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=261) We mustn’t allow Ukraine to build an army like that, because if it does, it will definitely use it. [4:29](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=269) I have no doubt about that for a moment and I believe that today we are laying a time bomb under not only our future, but the future of all humanity. [4:37](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=277) And we know, don't we, that in Ukraine, the communist regime was the most ossified, genuine, I would say, in character. [4:43](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=283) My own veins carry exactly as much Ukrainian blood as Russian blood, so I can talk about this perfectly calmly. [4:49](https://preview.translate.mom/transcript/MM6TAiobgmGd/transcript-of-discussion-on-ukraines-territorial-rights?t=289) And what worries me most is this symbiosis of extreme nationalists with a nomenklatura whose conservatism was obvious to everyone, but today they are very quickly