Discussion on Israeli Identity and Media

Were we on air?

Yes, we were on air. Of course.

I really want to be able to once

again be proud to be Israeli.

I want to—

What do you mean?

What, has it come to the point where

you're not proud to be Israeli?

There's no longer any pride in being Israeli.

You have no pride in being Israeli?

Those are dangerous words to say in a situation like this.

God, I'm not saying that out there.

I say it quietly.

Yes.

That's right, I'm not, I'm not standing tall over who

we are as a people,

and it's an awful feeling,

because I, I am the

perfect generation that had already grown up.

I was born in 1954, and then, let's say,

1967 came, and it took ten years to

understand the sin of the occupation.

It wasn't immediate.

The occupation brought

everything that came after—

Everything happening now is a result of the occupation.

What's happening now?

What's happening now?

What isn't happening now?

The religiousization, the...

The settlers, Jewish terrorism, the arrogance.

A minority has the right to fight for its freedom, too—

Not if it massacres civilian—civilians

No, I just see things differently.

Say, hearing that a minority has

the right to defend itself, it's…

It's, it's, it's a, uh—

It's hard for us to hear in the morning.

Hard, yes.

But Heli, we didn't come to talk about these things.

No, heaven forbid.

Yeah, no, but I understand it's intense

and hurts you, and that's okay.

I read something by Nefesh.

But we came to talk

about something else entirely, about…

Cinema and new roles. You know what?

Let's p-p-put together—

Were we on the air?

Yes, we were on the air. Of course. We're on the air.

Were we on the air during this conversation?

Certainly.

Yes.

This isn't okay.

Why? We have a plan.

No, that wasn't okay.

You didn't tell us we were back on the air.

We're on the air.

I don't want to.

There will be a broadcast here.

No. No. I'm leaving. This isn't okay.

I thought this was an off- screen conversation.

I thought we were on a commercial break.

So we really were on the air.

I... I don't want to.

At least, that's how we saw it.

I don't want to. I'm terribly sorry.

I don't know what to do with this.

Now. I really