turkish → English transcript

Does Turkey need an amnesty? It does. A general amnesty, general

amnesty, uh, is needed. Without a general amnesty, let's not even

tear each other apart. It's not about Öcalan's amnesty without a general amnesty.

No, a general amnesty that includes Öcalan. Uh, Öcalan, uh

no government today, for the next, I don't know, ten years

let's say. Within that time, uh, can't risk taking that step. Unless

it happens through a mutual agreement. It could happen like this. Uh

a ceasefire is declared. Uh, the first steps are taken. The first amnesty is issued. For those who haven't

touched weapons. These people and those people are pardoned. After that, to the administration

it goes. And in the end, Öcalan, uh, plays his part. In the final stage

let's say, we're speaking theoretically. Yes. At that point, would there be

12. such a thing? Of course, there would. Do you think he would also join the political scene

then? Absolutely. Öcalan, let me tell you. A party leader

Could it be? Umm, he becomes a party leader. And one who contests elections in Turkey

The party's leader. The party's leader. Is this of democracy

a requirement? Should it be? It should be. If Öcalan, if it's not too

late, one day in Turkey, to parliament as well

he can enter. Do you think he will enter? Will we see this? I mean, you

are an experienced journalist. From world examples. I mean

Turkey, twenty years from now. If anyone can do this, it's only Recep Tayyip

Erdoğan can do it. I don't see anyone else with the power, uh, who

I can't see. I mean. And this, from two thousand fourteen, two thousand fifteen

will happen after. When Öcalan is also in parliament and internal

peace is established, there's a chance. And will Erdoğan do this too

you're saying? Only Erdoğan can do this. Very strong. I mean

If he wins the presidency, will Erdoğan have this courage? He will. I mean, I

that's why I'm expecting it after two thousand fifteen. Umm, Kurdish

the, uh, developments in the issue. Uh, yes, people are uncomfortable

they might be, but I beg you, don't be uncomfortable. Please

don't be uncomfortable. Just think about it. I mean, here with the Kurds

we have to live together. Uh, living together with the Kurds

is also to our advantage. And by killing each other with this, uh, terror

we won't get anywhere either.