Discussion on Trump's Foreign Policy Actions

You said he's the peace president.

Yeah.

You said this in 2025.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, can you tell me how many countries Donald

Trump bombed in 2025?

Uh, he was the peace president before this war

of choice in the Middle East.

Before the war in February.

Yeah.

Last year.

And-

Just last year, how many countries did he bomb?

And I think it was his strongest attribute, was the fact

that he got us out of

disastrous wars, uh, in Afghanistan and Iraq, and just-

Joe Biden, Joe Biden ended the war in Afghanistan.

And until this-

Just to be clear, just to be clear, Joe Biden ended the war in Afghanistan.

And until this, started no new wars.

Uh, and this was a major costly departure.

So when Trump bombed Somalia, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Nigeria, Iran and

Venezuela, he was still a peace president at

that point?

Yes.

Even though he bombed seven countries in one year?

Yes, because they were very limited engagements

that protected, uh, key Amer-

So little wars are fine?

He... No.

Limited matters, Mehdi. It does. All right, it matters, right? With...

Going to full-scale war in the Middle East, uh, is an incredibly different deal

from-

No, I agree with you. That's much worse

... grabbing Maduro in Caracas.

I agree.

Right?

I agree it's much worse. Um-

And grabbing Maduro in Caracas was magnificent, by the way, and w-

I believe one of

the greatest foreign policy achievements-

So you like imperialist wars?

Of this...

I, I like the United States guarding our

neighborhood, which is the Americas,

and the, the Monroe Doctrine is still valid, and-

So you don't believe in national sovereignty?

And still matters.

Countries don't have sovereignty?

No, I do, and I believe that-

You went into a, you went into another country

and kidnapped their head of

government.

Because he's a criminal.

As president.

Because he is a criminal who had violated a US law, committed serious crimes

against his own people and against the United States.

So if you violate a US law, the US can come grab you?

Well, we did.

No, can you? Can the US come?

Yes, yes.

And if US presidents violate other people's countries' laws,

can they be grabbed by

those countries?

No, because we're the United States, Mehdi.

Okay, so international law doesn't apply.

I, I'm telling you, Steve, I'm enjoying your honesty tonight.

Well, then wait. Are you trying to say we're not different?

I'm appreciating your honesty tonight.

Are you saying that we're not different and exceptional? We are.

I'm saying that everyone should follow the law. That's what I believe.

Um-

Well, I'm saying America doesn't operate by the

same standards necessarily as the

rest of the world.

America is lawless, is what you're saying.

No, I'm saying we're exceptional.

You just said... Okay.

No.

I mean, every country thinks they're exceptional.

The issue is, do you follow the law?

I-