Discussing Racial Identity and Differences
But you, Babaià, aren't you proud to be Black?
No.
And...
I don't understand what difference you
see between white people and Black people.
Well, because in a cla—
Im-imagine. You see, in a class, everyone's
white, even the teacher, and one is
Black
and could never
have a girlfriend.
Why could he never have a girlfriend?
He can't.
Why can't he?
If she looks for a white one, he can, he
can reject her. No—
He can turn her down, right?
He, he can tell her that he doesn't want to be— and
some, some poor Black girl.
But white people and Black people can be together.
There's nothing wrong with that, right?
Or do you think there is?
A little.
What other difference do you see, Babaià?
I play
Well, one day they all called me "dark
chocolate."
How did you feel when they
called you "dark chocolate"?
Furious.
Furious? And what did you say to them?
White chocolate.
Sure, sure. So you have to
tell yourself all that.
Dark chocolate, but proud.
Mm-mm.
Why not? Were you very
offended when they told you
that? And how did you deal with it?
I was very…
I was very ashamed.
Were you ashamed that
they'd told you that?
Yes, honey.
And what did you do?
Because there are very few white people.
Few white people or very few Black people?
Black people.
There are two of you, right? On the team.
Okay. What else? What other
difference do you see? Come on.
Hmm. Well, they can eat pork.
Well, that's religion, we already said that.
That's religion, whether you're Muslim or not.
There are also white people who don't eat pork,
who are Muslim.
Well, white people can, uh, well, they can
get, oh, they can buy a new house
and sometimes Black people can't.
Well, because they don't have
enough money and,
and the others, the bl-- the white people,
have a lot of money.
Aren't there Black people who have money too?
Yes, they do, just not as many.
Do you know any Black person who has money?
Yes.
What other difference do you think there is?
Well, white people have,
have cooler backpacks than Black people.
Black people.
School backpacks?
No, for going to the pool.
And another thing, Babaia.
Do you know what you can do so that when you grow
up there will be more
Black teachers?
What?
Become a teacher.
I already—
Then you'll be a Black teacher and there'll be
representation, um, of, of Black teachers.
What do you think?
What do you think?
But I... And I'll scold a lot.
Do you get scolded a lot?
Yes.
No.
Yes.
Do I scold you a lot?
A little.
A little? When necessary, right?
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Original transcript (Catalan)
Però tu, Babaià, no estàs orgullós de ser negre? No. I... Jo no entenc quina diferència veus tu entre els blancs i els negres.
Doncs perquè en un cla-- im-imagina't. Vegeu, en una classe tots són blancs, hasta la mestra, i un és negre i mai podria
tenir nòvia. Per què mai podria tenir nòvia? No pot. Per què no pot? Si busca un, un blanc, li, li pot, li
pot rebutjar. No- La pot refusar, no. Li, li pot dir que, que no vol ser-- i algun, i alguna negra i po-pobre. Però blancs i negres podem
estar junts. Això no passa res, no? O tu creus que no? Una mica. Quina altra diferència hi veus, Babaià? Jo jugo a
. Doncs tots un dia em van dir xocolate negre. Tu com et vas sentir quan et van dir xocolate negre? Enfurastit.
Enfurastit? I què els hi vas dir? Chocolate blanc. Clar, clar. Doncs tot això t'ho has de dir. Chocolate negre, però orgullós.
Mm-mm. Per què no? A tu et va ofendre molt quan et van dir això? I com ho vas gestionar? Jo estava molt...
Tenia molta vergonya. Tenies vergonya de que t'haguessin dit això? Sí, amor. I què vas fer?
Perquè hi ha molt pocs blancs. Pocs blancs o molt pocs negres? Negres. Sou dos, oi? A l'equip. Bé. I què més? Quina
altra diferència trobes, va? Mmm. Doncs que poden menjar porc. Bé, això és la religió, ja ho vam dir. Això és la religió, que és ser musulmà o no ser musulmà. També hi ha blancs que no
mengen porc, eh, que són musulmans. Doncs que els blancs poden, ah, doncs poden agafar, ai, poden comprar una casa nova i a vegades els negres no poden. Doncs perquè no tenen
masses diners i, i els altres, els ca-- els blancs, tenen molts diners. I no hi ha negres que també tenen diners? Sí que en tenen, no tants.
Tu coneixes algú negre que tingui diners? Sí. Quina altra diferència creus? Doncs que els blancs tenen, tenen unes motxilles més xules que els
negres. Motxilles de l'escola? No, per anar a la piscina. I una altra cosa, Babaià. Saps el que pots fer perquè quan siguis
gran hi hagi més mestres negres? Què? Fer-te mestre. Jo ja-
Així tu seràs un mestre negre i hi haurà representació, mm, de, de mestres negres. Què et sembla? Però jo... I renyaré molt.
Que et renyen molt a tu? Sí. No. Sí. Jo et renyo molt?
Una mica. Una mica? Quan cal, no?
