English → Spanish transcript
Siempre la pregunta va para el tipo negro. Ya lo sabes. Estoy cansado.
You already know. I'm tired.
Ya lo sabes. He pasado por eso. Te dije que puedo identificarme. Me da tanta
I told you I can relate.
pena el tipo. Porque sí, cuando hablas,
pena el tipo. Porque sí, cuando hablas,
Imagina que tienes que suplicar para ser igual o sentirte igual en la sociedad.
Lo inhumano que se siente eso. Es solo… es una locura que tengamos eso…
It's just... it's madness how we have that...
Como, pertenecemos,¿ no? Bueno.
Como, pertenecemos,¿ no? Bueno.
Pero la que es…¿ sabes cuál es la que me llega? Es como, “ Oh,
otra vez están jugando la carta racial.”
¿ Cómo que qué?¿ Qué quieres decir con jugando la carta racial? Es tan difícil
hablar de esto y encontrar las palabras… y cómo te sientes con alguien que…
and how you feel to someone who...
a veces no cree o no siente lo que tú sientes en ese momento. Y Thierry tiene razón,
es bueno cuando sientes que tienes aliados que…
están felices de hablar de eso porque se siente como… un disco rayado,
una y otra vez.
Y hay ciertas personas que ni siquiera quieren hablar de eso…
por miedo de que, otra vez, estén usando la carta racial…
o que estén hablando de eso otra vez,
Se trata de una situación que ha surgido esta noche…
que necesita ser tratada de la manera adecuada. Y Thierry tiene razón,
no tenemos las respuestas. No las tenemos. Y no tenemos suficiente poder para sacar…
We don't. And we're not powerful enough to make...
las conclusiones correctas sobre lo que eso pueda ser. Y esa es la parte difícil.
And that's a difficult part.
Entonces vienes, estás riendo y bromeando,
or whatnot, you be a footballer, and yeah, he's entertaining.
Pero¿ puedes ayudar a un hombre cuando está hundido o cuando se siente hundido…
o si hoy es Vini Jr. pasando por eso?
¿ Puedes levantarlo cuando siente que no tiene a nadie ahí con él?
Y por eso Kylian salió tan fuerte, y todos sus compañeros. Y todo esto va de si
And the whole thing about this, is he being guilty of celebrating?
Just put that into context of what that means.
Está bailando. Es brasileño. Se está divirtiendo. Se está expresando de
una forma en la que disfruta el fútbol. Y por eso le sacan una tarjeta amarilla…
And he gets a yellow card for that...
y luego va y sufre abusos racistas. Y eso es lo triste de todo lo que ha pasado hoy.
And that's the sad thing about the whole thing today.
Es que… es triste hablar de ello. Thierry, sabes cuando dijiste algo como…
Thierry, you know how you said like...
que los carteles y todo,
Pero lo que dices es que lo que no quieres ver son gestos vacíos… sin ver una acción
real detrás de eso,¿ no? Sé que es una pregunta difícil,
pero¿ hay un castigo que te parezca acorde con el delito?
O sea,¿ tienes una idea de qué debería ser para que sintieras que está justificado?
No lo sé. No estoy en esas discusiones.
I'm just saying that when you pretend to do something...
y solo por el hecho de que se vea que lo haces… ¿ Y después qué?
Por eso le pregunté a Christina,¿ qué pasa después de eso? La pancarta.
The sign.
El protocolo… sí, sí,¿ y luego qué? Ahora Kylian Mbappé salió y dijo lo que dijo.
Now Kylian Mbappé came out and said what he said.
Y, por lo visto, muchos jugadores lo escucharon. ¿ Qué vas a hacer al respecto?
What you gonna do about it?
O sea, qué… tiene que ser algo concreto.
En mi época, recuerdo que jugábamos tantos partidos en los que cerraban la grada…
de un estadio porque oían algo en esa grada. O una cosa, otra cosa.
Quiero decir,¿ podemos…? O sea… ¿ podemos ya no tener eso?
can we not have it anymore?
Antes, la gente sí se peleaba, mucho antes de mi época…
para que nosotros pudiéramos actuar y entretener a la gente. Y que en 2026 sigamos
And to still be in 2026 dealing with the same thing, it's tiring.
You know why it touches me a lot? Because obviously I can relate.
Not only I can relate by the color of my skin...
me identifico porque he estado allí. He estado solo.
I've been lonely. I've been back.
He vuelto. Thierry, cállate,¿ sabes por qué?
cállate,¿ sabes por qué?
y solo muéstrales de lo que eres capaz. Responde marcando un gol.
Answer by scoring a goal. Okay.
Vale. Pero en serio,¿ qué estamos haciendo? Responde marcando un gol. ¿ Qué cambió?
Respondí marcando goles. Respondí siendo arrogante. Respondí quedándome callado.
I answered by being cocky. I answered by being silent.
Respondí simplemente ignorando. Respondí peleando.
Respondí... cuando dije peleando, no peleando físicamente... sino peleando con
lo que podía hacer. Y sigue pasando. Entonces,¿ qué, solo servimos para entretener?
So what, are we just good to entertain?
Y de hecho no,
because you stop the game.
¿ De qué estamos hablando? En serio,¿ sabes qué? Es... ese es el juego que amo.
Seriously, you know what? It's... that's the game that I love.
Quiero decir, es mi vida, ha sido mi vida, siempre será mi vida.
Pero a veces nos fallamos a nosotros mismos. Cuando… eso no es lo que quieres ver…
When... that's not what you want to see...
en un partido de esa magnitud.
¿ Eso fue lo que mostramos al mundo?¿ Hoy? El tipo que marcó el gol no
The guy that scored the goal wasn't allowed to celebrate.
pudo celebrar. Se fue a bailar a la esquina. Y luego, después,
lo victimizan por ser objeto de racismo… perdón, de abuso. ¿ Cuándo va a cambiar?
When is it going to change?
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Original transcript (English)
The question always comes to the Black guy. You already know. I'm tired. You already know. Been there. I told you I can relate. I feel so sorry for the guy.
Because yes, when you do talk, sometimes it feels like that you're crying. Imagine you have to plead to be equal or feel equal in society. How inhumane that that feels. It's just... it's madness how we have that... Like, we belong, right?
Well. But it's the one... you know what the one that gets me is like, "Oh, they're playing the race card again." What do you mean? What do you mean playing the race card? It's so difficult to talk about and articulate the words...
and how you feel to someone who... at times don't believe or feel what you feel at the time. And Thierry is right, it's nice when you feel like you've got allies who... are happy to talk about it because it feels like... a broken record over and over again.
And there's certain people who don't even want to talk about it... for fearing that, again, they're using the race card... or they're talking about that again, or they're bringing race into it. It's not about that. It's about a situation that's arose tonight... that needs dealing with in the proper way.
And Thierry is right, we don't have the answers. We don't. And we're not powerful enough to make... the right conclusions on what that may be. And that's a difficult part. So you come on, you're laughing and joking, it's Big Meeks and we're having fun...
or whatnot, you be a footballer, and yeah, he's entertaining. But can you help a man when he's down or when he feels down... or he's Vini Jr. tonight going through that? Can you lift him up when it feels like he's got no one there with him? And that's why Kylian come out so strong, and all his teammates.
And the whole thing about this, is he being guilty of celebrating? Just put that into context of what that means. He's dancing. He's Brazilian. He's having fun. He's expressing himself in ways where he enjoys football. And he gets a yellow card for that...
and then he goes and gets racially abused. And that's the sad thing about the whole thing today. It's just... it's sad to talk about. Thierry, you know how you said like... the signs and everything, the racism out and all of that is nice.
But what you're saying is what you don't want to see is empty kind of sentiments... without seeing real action come behind that, right? I know this is a difficult question, but is there a punishment that would feel fitting to the crime? Like do you have a sense of what that should be that would make you feel that was justified? I don't know. I'm not in those discussions. I don't sit with those people in power.
I'm just saying that when you pretend to do something... and just for the sake of being seen to do it... What after? This is why I asked Christina, what happens after that? The sign. The protocol... yeah, yeah, and then what?
Now Kylian Mbappé came out and said what he said. And apparently a lot of players heard it. What you gonna do about it? Like, what's... it has to be something concrete. In my time, I remember we played so many games where they closed the stand...
of a stadium because they heard something in that stand. Or one this, one that. I mean, can we... I mean... can we not have it anymore? Like, people did fight before, way before my time... for us to be able to perform and entertain people.
And to still be in 2026 dealing with the same thing, it's tiring. You know why it touches me a lot? Because obviously I can relate. Not only I can relate by the color of my skin... I can relate because I've been there. I've been lonely. I've been back.
Thierry, just shut up, you know why? Because people are going to think that you're crying for no reason. Thierry, shut up, you know why? Because it's normal in this world. Put your cape on, you know what, and just show them what you can do. Answer by scoring a goal. Okay. But really, what are we doing? Answer by scoring a goal.
What did it change? I answered by scoring goals. I answered by being cocky. I answered by being silent. I answered by just ignoring. I answered by fighting. I answered by... when I said fighting, not fighting physically... but fighting with what I could do. And it's still happening.
So what, are we just good to entertain? And actually not, because when you score a goal you're not allowed to celebrate anymore... because you stop the game. What are we talking about? Seriously, you know what? It's... that's the game that I love.
I mean, it's my life, it has been my life, it will always be my life. But sometimes we let ourselves down. When... that's not what you want to see... in a game of that magnitude. That's what we showed to the world? Today?
The guy that scored the goal wasn't allowed to celebrate. He went to dance in the corner. And then after he's victimized for being racially... sorry, abused. When is it going to change?
