0:00

Tan Sri Hadi is a religious scholar. He should be— shouldn't he be a little more, uh, restrained?

0:07

So I tried to answer him, not to show me anything, but to condemn people or groups.

0:13

The Dajjal stance isn't right. That's the first point. Secondly, the party that first put it forward was his.

0:24

Um, Datuk Takiyuddin is now with Pertekai.

0:27

The one who proposed it was with Hamzah and several others at the time from the government then.

0:36

And we used the same draft to put it forward.

0:40

So it's really strange among them if members haven't read it, or thought it through. That's a problem.

0:47

Once again, I say, the one who submitted the Memorandum of Understanding proposal was Perikatan Nasional, which PAS was part of at the time, along with Bersatu and UMNO, and Pakatan Harapan.

1:07

Then we signed it. So what now, when he does it— not Dajjal, but when people make him out to be Dajjal?

1:17

That’s the problem. I don’t think religion can be toyed with like that.

1:23

All right. Datuk Seri, earlier, Takiyuddin asked for the contents of the SSA to be disclosed. What do you say?

1:28

No, no. It’s not confidential. No. Its principle is the same as before.

1:34

I have no problem with that. I’ll convey it to Datuk Seri Fadillah, the second Deputy Prime Minister.

1:40

He’s responsible for it. I have no problem. It can be disclosed.

1:45

Because its principle is the same as the one signed before.

1:50

All right. But in any case, at tomorrow’s Meeting of Ministers, I’ll convey it to Datuk Seri Fadillah and I have no objection to disclosing it.

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Original transcript (Indonesian)

Tan Sri Hadi itu orang alim sepatutnya kena-kena tak dia itu lebih aa terkawal ya.

Aa jadi aku cuba jawab dia bukan tunjuk pada saya tak-tak apa tapi untuk hukumm orang atau kumpulan atau pendirian Dajjal tak kena.

Itu pertama. Keduanya yang kemukakan dulu itu parti dia.

Erm Datuk Takiyuddin sekarang Pertekai. Yang cadang itu dia bersama masa itu Hamzah dan beberapa orang lain daripada kerajaan pada ketika itu.

Dan kita guna draf yang sama untuk kemukakan.

Jadi aneh betul lah di kalangan kalau ahli yang tak baca, tak fikir, ini jadi masalah.

Sekali lagi saya sebut, siapa yang kemukakan kertas cadangan Memorandum Persefahaman ini adalah Perikatan Nasional yang dianggotai oleh PAS juga ketika itu dan Bersatu dan UMNO bersama Perikatan Harapan.

Kemudian kita materai. Jadi macam mana sekarang bila dia berbuat tak Dajjal, bila orang buat jadi Dajjal.

Ini masalah dia. Saya tidak fikir agama boleh dipermainkan seperti itu.

Baik. Datuk Seri, aa tadi Takiyuddin minta dedahkan isi kandungan SSA itu. Macam mana?

Tidak, tidak. Dia tidak rahsia. Tidak. Dia prinsip dia sama seperti yang dulu.

Saya tak ada masalah. Nanti saya sampaikan kepada Datuk Seri Fadillah, TPM 2, dia yang bertanggungjawab.

Saya tak ada masalah. Boleh dedahkan. Kerana prinsip dia sama dengan yang ditandatangani dulu.

Baik. Tapi walau bagaimanapun, esok Mesyuarat Menteri-Mesyuarat Menteri saya akan sampaikan kepada Datuk Seri Fadillah dan saya tidak ada keberatan untuk mendedahkan.

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