Middle East Politics and Alliances

Why did the devil go and make a deal with America in Oman?

And secure the right of American and Israeli ships to sail freely?

He says, well, Saudi Arabia is cooperating with them.

He says, should I eliminate those who are cooperating first?

That isn't realistic. So, for example, you look at whether the Houthi organization in Yemen has any reasonable justification for attacking Saudi Arabia.

There isn't any. He says they're cooperating with America.

Turkey also cooperates with America. Turkey is a NATO member, so Turkey should be attacked, then.

That isn't realistic. What we're saying isn't realistic.

Because it's a country that recognizes Israel in the Muslim world.

Saudi Arabia is a country in the Muslim world that has never recognized Israel.

So now, on the issue of Palestine, between Saudi Arabia and Iran…

List the things it has put forward one by one.

You'll see the situation is completely different.

I mean, perception is one thing, reality is another. I mean, Saudi Arabia, from the very beginning, if the issue is the Palestinian cause, if it's as the Houthis claim, for example, let's say such a reality exists.

Saudi Arabia is betraying the Palestinian cause.

And that's why we strike Saudi Arabia. Because it's the pawn here of the Great Satan and Israel.

Saudi Arabia is a state that has never recognized Israel throughout its history.

The greatest patron of the Palestinian cause.

So far, it has provided more than five billion dollars in aid to Palestine.

It has hosted all the refugees in Palestine and taken in more than four hundred thousand Palestinians since 1948.

On every issue related to Palestine, in three Arab-Israeli wars, Saudi Arabia either actively joined the war or supported the Arab armies through military logistics.

All these facts are right there. So where is Iran?

On the Iran issue, let's look at Iran's position on Palestine.

Let's start from the beginning. In 1976, there was the Tel al- Zaatar massacre, for example.

The burning and destruction of Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon.

Who did it? It was the Amal Movement, collaborating with the Phalangists.

Who was the Amal Movement? It was the biggest supporter of Hafez al-Assad's regime in Syria.

In other words, it was Iran's instrument there.

What happened after that? Yasser Arafat was forced to leave Palestine.

The Palestinian struggle had to leave Lebanese soil and move to Tunisia.

Let's continue. In all the attacks targeting Palestinian refugee camps, either Hezbollah or the Amal Movement played a part.

Look at the war in Iraq. Iraq was occupied in 2003.

There are Palestinian refugee camps in Baghdad, in Iraq.

All the Palestinians in Baghdad were exiled during the war by pro-Iranian groups.

Where to? To the Syrian border. They were crammed into the refugee camp at Tanf, Al-Tanf.

What happened next? Before the Syrian civil war, the refugees there, the Palestinian refugees, were brought over. They were settled in the immediate outskirts of Damascus, in Syria.

The greatest genocide took place there. So who did it again?

Iran-backed militia groups again. You carry out massacres in Syria, and exile Palestinians from Iraq.

You don't let Palestinian refugees in Lebanon stay, you drive them out.

There are no Palestinian refugees left. You nurture and grow your own organization and your own supporters there.

Until then, that is, until the end of the seventies, when there was no such thing as Hezbollah, you drive out all the Palestinian refugees in southern Lebanon, and install a group there that shares your sectarian identity and can carry out your policies.

You determine Lebanese politics and while doing all this, you always base it on the Palestinian refugees’ elimination.

That reality is right there. So— I guess there’s a sectarian issue.

The answer to this question, you know: why do Saudi Arabia or other countries in the region move closer to the U.S.?

It can’t be because of the Israeli threat, I suppose.

Ultimately, they know they can’t attack Israel with weapons under U.S. control.

Am I wrong about the Iranian threat, Murat?

Until the Iranian Revolution, the countries in the region were fighting Israel.

They fought Israel. After ’79, there’s something like that, right?

I mean, after Iran entered the picture, the Iran-Iraq War, some tensions in Syria, and it began fighting within the Islamic world.

So, until Iran took the stage, or rather, until the Khomeini— until the Khomeini regime came about, the Arab world was—fighting Israel.

Its entire existence was against Israel and America.

The Palestinians could breathe until that period.

The countries that were the driving force behind the Palestinian struggle were Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, these lands, and Saudi Arabia.

The main place they fought was Israel. And the U.S. was behind Israel.

All of the Middle East was completely anti-American and anti-Israel.

After the Khomeini Revolution in ’79 took place…

And after it began expanding its spheres of influence in both Lebanon and Syria the Palestinian struggle remained dominant, but was left abandoned, left without support and has truly become an abandoned cause at this point.

There is no longer any force in the Arab world that can stand fully behind the Palestinian cause.

Why? Because the Arab world became part of the wars Iran began to stir up.

There was Saddam. Saddam stood very firm.