Discussion on Jewish History and Identity
Nov 3, 2026 2:08
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Lo que recordamos y lo que nos contamos
what we tell about ourselves is
a nosotros mismos está construido.
No tiene por qué coincidir con la realidad.
No tiene por qué coincidir con la realidad.
Ya sabes, toda esa idea de que los judíos
fueron expulsados por los romanos
de Palestina
nunca ocurrió.
De hecho, te contaré algo.
De hecho, te contaré algo.
Eh,
Ben… David Ben- Gurión,
que fue el primer gran líder sionista,
el primer,
Yitzhak Ben- Zvi, su colega,
eh, presidente del
Estado de Israel, en 1920 o
en el 21, escribieron un libro.
¿Sabes qué dijeron?
Dijeron que los romanos no expulsaron
a todos los judíos de Palestina.
a todos los judíos de Palestina.
a todos los judíos de Palestina.
Muchos se quedaron allí como
campesinos trabajando la tierra.
Y luego, cuando llegó el islam,
quinientos años después,
se convirtieron al islam.
Así que adivina quiénes son los palestinos.
Algunos de ellos son
descendientes de antiguos judíos.
Yo no dije eso.
Lo dijeron Ben- Gurion y Ben- Zvi.
Y ya en la época de la antigüedad, eh,
en la época de la destrucción
eh, a manos de los romanos tras
muchos más judíos viviendo
fuera de Palestina que dentro.
En, en una ciudad de Egipto,
Alejandría, había más judíos que
en toda, eh, en toda Palestina. ¿Sabes quiénes eran?
Eran conversos.
Eran conversos.
Y, curiosamente,
cuando miras a los judíos de Etiopía,
parecen
etíopes.
Y cuando miras a los judíos de la India,
parecen indios.
Cuando miras a los judíos de China,
parecen chinos.
¿Sabes quiénes son? Son conversos,
¿Sabes quiénes son? Son conversos,
pero tienen derecho a regresar.
Quiero decir, hay tantos mitos… tanta
mitología alrededor de esto,
pero nos aferramos a esta mitología
por lo que llamo el, eh,
sentido de victimismo con derecho a todo.
sentido de victimismo con derecho a todo.
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Original transcript (English)
What we remember and what we tell about ourselves is constructed. It doesn't necessarily have to do with reality.
You know, the whole idea that the Jews were expelled by the Romans from Palestine never happened. As a matter of fact,
I'll tell you something. Um, Ben-- David Ben-Gurion, who's the first big Zionist leader, first, uh, prime minister of the State of Israel, and
Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, his colleague, who became the second, um, president of the State of Israel, in 1920 or '21, they wrote a book. You know what they said?
They said that the Romans did not expel all the Jews from Palestine. Many of them stayed
there as peasants on the land. And then when Islam came in 500 years later, they converted to Islam. So guess who the Palestinians are?
Some of them are the descendants of ancient Jews. I didn't say this. Ben-Gurion and Ben-Zvi said this. And already in the time of ancient, um,
at the time of the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, uh, by the Romans after the Jewish revolt, there were many more Jews living outside Palestine than inside. In, in one city in Egypt,
Alexandria, there were more Jews than all of, um, in all of Palestine. You know who they were? They were converts. And strangely enough, when
you look at Jews from Ethiopia, they look like Ethiopians. And when you look at Jews from India, they look like Indians.
When you look at Jews from China, they look like Chinese. You know who they are? They're converts, but they have the right of return.
I mean, there's so many myth- such mythology around it, but we ground ourselves in this mythology because of what I'm calling is the, um,
sense of entitled victimhood.
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